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X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by osvaldsson » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:58 pm

After installing KPDX, X-Plane crashes almost every time. The almost is the strangest part as I seem to be able to run it successfully for one session, but every subsequent session X-Plane will crash on startup. Uninstalling the scenario will correct the issue.

Tested on X-Plane 11.41 and 11.50b13, in both cases on Windows 10. There is no issue running X-Plane without KPDX.

X-Plane does not put any details in the log, and there is no crash dmp file generated.

Any and all pointers towards what to try or look for appreciated.

Thanks

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by SammyH » Mon Jul 06, 2020 8:30 pm

I will attempt to replicate the issue. I was just in my XP and had no issues but I was not at PDX.

IF I can find something or replicate the issue I will post it here.
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by iblueyonder » Mon Jul 13, 2020 6:56 pm

I'm not having any trouble running KPDX in XP11. I just tested it again in 11.50b14, and it runs like a champ. So the next thing we need to do is figure out what's different between our systems. What other add-ons do you run?
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by SammyH » Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:22 pm

I too gave it a whirl Bill with no issues.
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by osvaldsson » Sat Jul 18, 2020 2:15 am

This is not including KPDX as that doesn't allow me to start X-Plane, the below works fine when KPDX is not available.

Sceneries:

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SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KLAX - Los Angeles International HD/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - BIKF Keflavik/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Seattle Airports ARoads/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Seattle Airports XP/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Seattle Airports XP Documents/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Seattle City XP/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/DD Seattle City XP Documents/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/SeasonsXP/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flightbeam Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Airport Environment HD/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Africa/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Asia/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Europe/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_FSE_Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_North-America/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Oceania/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_South-America/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_USA-East/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_USA-Middle/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_USA-West/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x_Prefab_Library V8.0 MisterX/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/3D_people_library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyAgi_Vegetation_Global_Trees/
SCENERY_PACK X:\Other\Ortho4XP\yOrtho4XP_Overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/z_KLAX_HD_Mesh/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/ZZZ DD Seattle Airports XP Terrain/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+37-122/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+37-123/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+45-123/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+47-122/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+47-123/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_hd_global_scenery4/
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X:\X-Plane 11\Resources\plugins>dir /b
AH2.XP11.Plugin.xpl
AutoGate
AviTab
BetterPushback
CIFP
Commands.txt
cycle_info.txt
DataRefs.txt
earth_awy.dat
earth_fix.dat
earth_hold.dat
earth_nav.dat
ExtPlane
FlyWithLua
GndHandling
HaversineAir
HaversineAir.cfg
librain.plugin
Little Xpconnect
NavigraphSimlink_64.xpl
PluginAdmin
PythonInterface
PythonScripts
rxpGNS
rxpGTN
TerrainRadar
user_fix_georef.dat
xgs
xPilot
XPLM.framework
XPLM_64.dll
XPLM_64.so
XPWidgets.framework
XPWidgets_64.dll
XPWidgets_64.so
XSaitekProFlight

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by osvaldsson » Tue Jul 21, 2020 3:58 pm

I've made a clean install and have been trying to add and remove scenarios to try and figure out which one is contributing to KPDX crashing X-Plane but without much luck. Due to the unpredictable nature, I sometimes get it working for one or two sessions, and then next time I load up X-Plane it crashes on startup.

I'm out of ideas and am fast coming to the conclusion that I should just request a refund as the scenario is unusable to me, while everything else works fine without KPDX.

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by Chase911 » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:59 pm

I might start a new thread if I don't get any answer. I'm renewing this thread for the exact same reason.
I have had no problem running this scenery since release. Over the last couple days, I needed to upgrade my windows build to the most current 2004 build. Doing this is always a huge pain. It makes add on's think it's a new computer I guess. I've had to re-install a bunch of add ons and re-validate licenses. I tried running the sim with the old PDX files and no go. XP starts, then CTD, just like the above guy states. So I think there is a compatibility issue with this version of windows? I DL a fresh installer and re-installed the airport files. And that still has the same problem. I noticed in the root folder of XP, there is a Flight-beam folder which houses the manager. I do not see where I can uninstall the manager. Is it just a simple deletion of the Folder? I can't find a link to uninstall it, and program files doesn't have an option to uninstall it either. I've tried several times to re-install this scenery. When it does work, which like the guy says, is only once out of 10 tires, the FPS tanks to about half of what it was before adding in the scenery. I'm not an IT guy, but maybe the old "flightbeam folder" has some sort of file that searches for the computer being used? Are there other files which can be deleted which might be causing this in the preferences folder? I just think it's this version of windows. It's the only thing which makes sense. I was using windows build 1909 for ever, but with msfs releasing, I knew I needed to update to 2004. And I can load any other scenery or aircraft without issue. Just this scenery is the issue. So how should I proceed? Because like he states, there is no log and no trace of any issue. I really think Win 10 Build 2004 is the culprit. I have updated all drivers too. Thanks for any assistance, being this is one of my favorite airports to fly into.

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by iblueyonder » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:31 am

Let me look into this some more. As I said previously, I'm not able to reproduce the crash on my system which makes it hard to diagnose. My windows 10 is up to date, but with 11.50 still in beta, that a moving target. No promises, but I'm looking into it.
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by Chase911 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:32 am

iblueyonder wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:31 am
Let me look into this some more. As I said previously, I'm not able to reproduce the crash on my system which makes it hard to diagnose. My windows 10 is up to date, but with 11.50 still in beta, that a moving target. No promises, but I'm looking into it.
Hi Bill. Thanks for the reply. While your looking into this, can you tell me how to properly uninstall the Flightbeam Manager from the computer?.

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by iblueyonder » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:13 pm

I'm not comfortable giving advice on the FB manager, Dave. Mir or Lars can probably help.
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by Chase911 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:49 pm

iblueyonder wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:13 pm
I'm not comfortable giving advice on the FB manager, Dave. Mir or Lars can probably help.
That's okay, i found out by them, that all is required is to delete the flightbeam folder from the xp root folder. No Uninstaller.
I've also located the problem with the scenery. It is a clash with the 2004 version of windows 10 and the version of "SAM" plugin you use in the scenery. I noticed in the log, it would not load the SAM. under KPDX/plugins/SAM. Your SAM version is way out dated. So I took a later version of SAM and replaced out the SAM plugins in your scenery. That worked. The only problem is I no longer have access to the hanger door. So I believe an update to this scenery is in order using a current version of the SAM plugin. For what ever reason the SAM you use. x64 is connected to win 10 1909 version.

Hope this helps.

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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by iblueyonder » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:24 am

Chase911 wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 4:49 pm
I've also located the problem with the scenery. It is a clash with the 2004 version of windows 10 and the version of "SAM" plugin you use in the scenery. I noticed in the log, it would not load the SAM. under KPDX/plugins/SAM. Your SAM version is way out dated. So I took a later version of SAM and replaced out the SAM plugins in your scenery. That worked. The only problem is I no longer have access to the hanger door. So I believe an update to this scenery is in order using a current version of the SAM plugin. For what ever reason the SAM you use. x64 is connected to win 10 1909 version.

Hope this helps.

Dave
Hi Dave,

I'm finally back in the office and could test what you were saying. Interestingly, with X-Plane 11.50r2 and Windows 10-2004, I don't get the crash with KPDX, even with the old version of SAM installed. In fact, SAM still operates just fine for me. So it's either something else causing the crash, or something particular to a given system & configuration.
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Re: X-Plane crashes after KDPX install

Post by Chase911 » Sat Sep 05, 2020 7:52 am

"Interestingly, with X-Plane 11.50r2 and Windows 10-2004, I don't get the crash with KPDX, even with the old version of SAM installed"

Okay. Well i was able to fix it on my end. It's only a suggestion that you update the scenery. But with only two people affected by this it's probably not worth the time and effort. Thanks for the reply.
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